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Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2085

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sahih
Parsed paths
1
Resolved narrators
0/4
With source evidence
0/4
Need attention
4

0 criticized · 4 unresolved

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Source wording جامع الترمذي
قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ صَحِيح
حسن صحيحصحيححديث حسن صحيح

Attributed to al-Tirmidhi. Parser labels: Hasan Sahih, Sahih.

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Grades recorded on related transmissions
Sahih · 3

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  1. Recorded grading

    The reader edition records Sahih (Darussalam), and 1 distinct source wording record is preserved separately.

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  2. Chain resolution

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  3. Related routes

    3/3 related public chains share at least one resolved narrator; 2 direct transmission links repeat.

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  4. Matn wording

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Accepted hadith principles · 3

Transmission paths

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Recorded chain

0/3 links corroborated

  1. محمد بن يحيى بن أبي عمر، وقد ينسب إلى جده، وقيل: إن أبا عمر كنية أبيه يحيى
  2. سفيان بن عيينة بن أبي عمران: ميمون
  3. سلمة بن دينار
  4. سهل بن سعد بن مالك بن خالد بن ثعلبة بن حارثة بن عمرو بن الخزرج بن ساعدة بن كعب بن الخزرج، ويقال: سهل بن سعد بن سعد بن مالك، والأول أصح

Path 1: 0/4 identities resolved; 0 narrator dossiers contain source evidence; 0/3 edges corroborated; 3 unresolved edge endpoints; 0 generation-order conflicts.

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Narrators with formal disagreement
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محمد بن يحيى بن أبي عمر، وقد ينسب إلى جده، وقيل: إن أبا عمر كنية أبيه يحيىNo authority status loaded · 0 evidence itemsOpen

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سفيان بن عيينة بن أبي عمران: ميمونNo authority status loaded · 0 evidence itemsOpen

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سلمة بن دينارNo authority status loaded · 0 evidence itemsOpen

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سهل بن سعد بن مالك بن خالد بن ثعلبة بن حارثة بن عمرو بن الخزرج بن ساعدة بن كعب بن الخزرج، ويقال: سهل بن سعد بن سعد بن مالك، والأول أصحNo authority status loaded · 0 evidence itemsOpen

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Shared transmission links

2 repeated links

Matn wording variation

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Sahih al-Bukhari · 24358% ordered word overlap · 10 addition passages · 9 omission passagessahih

Related wording

حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدٌ، قَالَ أَخْبَرَنَا سُفْيَانُ بْنُ عُيَيْنَةَ، عَنْ أَبِي حَازِمٍ، سَمِعَ سَهْلَ بْنَ سَعْدٍ السَّاعِدِيَّ،، وَسَأَلَهُ النَّاسُ، وَمَا بَيْنِي وَبَيْنَهُ أَحَدٌ بِأَىِّ شَىْءٍ دُووِيَ جُرْحُ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ مَا بَقِيَ أَحَدٌ أَعْلَمُ بِهِ مِنِّي، كَانَ عَلِيٌّ يَجِيءُ بِتُرْسِهِ فِيهِ مَاءٌ، وَفَاطِمَةُ تَغْسِلُ عَنْ وَجْهِهِ الدَّمَ، فَأُخِذَ حَصِيرٌ فَأُحْرِقَ فَحُشِيَ بِهِ جُرْحُهُ‏.‏

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  • مُحَمَّدٌ،
  • أَخْبَرَنَا
  • بْنُ عُيَيْنَةَ،
  • سَمِعَ
  • السَّاعِدِيَّ،، وَسَأَلَهُ النَّاسُ، وَمَا بَيْنِي وَبَيْنَهُ أَحَدٌ
  • النَّبِيِّ
  • يَجِيءُ بِتُرْسِهِ فِيهِ مَاءٌ،
  • عَنْ وَجْهِهِ
  • فَأُخِذَ
  • فَأُحْرِقَ

Present in the selected hadith, absent here

  • ابْنُ أَبِي عُمَرَ،
  • حَدَّثَنَا
  • قَالَ سُئِلَ
  • وَأَنَا أَسْمَعُ،
  • رَسُولِ اللَّهِ
  • يَأْتِي بِالْمَاءِ فِي تُرْسِهِ
  • عَنْهُ
  • وَأُحْرِقَ لَهُ
  • قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ صَحِيحٌ
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Sahih al-Bukhari · 303751% ordered word overlap · 11 addition passages · 11 omission passagessahih

Related wording

حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو حَازِمٍ، قَالَ سَأَلُوا سَهْلَ بْنَ سَعْدٍ السَّاعِدِيَّ رضى الله عنه بِأَىِّ شَىْءٍ دُووِيَ جُرْحُ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ مَا بَقِيَ مِنَ النَّاسِ أَحَدٌ أَعْلَمُ بِهِ مِنِّي، كَانَ عَلِيٌّ يَجِيءُ بِالْمَاءِ فِي تُرْسِهِ، وَكَانَتْ يَعْنِي فَاطِمَةَ تَغْسِلُ الدَّمَ عَنْ وَجْهِهِ، وَأُخِذَ حَصِيرٌ فَأُحْرِقَ، ثُمَّ حُشِيَ بِهِ جُرْحُ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم‏.‏

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  • عَلِيُّ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ،
  • حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو
  • سَأَلُوا
  • السَّاعِدِيَّ رضى الله عنه
  • النَّبِيِّ
  • مِنَ النَّاسِ
  • يَجِيءُ
  • وَكَانَتْ يَعْنِي فَاطِمَةَ
  • عَنْ وَجْهِهِ، وَأُخِذَ
  • فَأُحْرِقَ، ثُمَّ حُشِيَ
  • جُرْحُ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم‏.‏

Present in the selected hadith, absent here

  • ابْنُ أَبِي عُمَرَ، قال
  • عَنْ أَبِي
  • سُئِلَ
  • وَأَنَا أَسْمَعُ،
  • رَسُولِ اللَّهِ
  • يَأْتِي
  • وَفَاطِمَةُ
  • عَنْهُ
  • وَأُحْرِقَ لَهُ
  • فَحُشِيَ
  • جُرْحُهُ قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ صَحِيحٌ
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Sahih al-Bukhari · 524843% ordered word overlap · 11 addition passages · 7 omission passagessahih

Related wording

حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ، عَنْ أَبِي حَازِمٍ، قَالَ اخْتَلَفَ النَّاسُ بِأَىِّ شَىْءٍ دُووِيَ جُرْحُ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَوْمَ أُحُدٍ، فَسَأَلُوا سَهْلَ بْنَ سَعْدٍ السَّاعِدِيَّ، وَكَانَ مِنْ آخِرِ مَنْ بَقِيَ مِنْ أَصْحَابِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم بِالْمَدِينَةِ، فَقَالَ وَمَا بَقِيَ مِنَ النَّاسِ أَحَدٌ أَعْلَمُ بِهِ مِنِّي، كَانَتْ فَاطِمَةُ عَلَيْهَا السَّلاَمُ تَغْسِلُ الدَّمَ عَنْ وَجْهِهِ، وَعَلِيٌّ يَأْتِي بِالْمَاءِ عَلَى تُرْسِهِ، فَأُخِذَ حَصِيرٌ، فَحُرِّقَ فَحُشِيَ بِهِ جُرْحُهُ‏.‏

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  • قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ،
  • اخْتَلَفَ النَّاسُ
  • اللَّهِ صلى
  • عليه وسلم يَوْمَ أُحُدٍ، فَسَأَلُوا سَهْلَ بْنَ سَعْدٍ السَّاعِدِيَّ، وَكَانَ مِنْ آخِرِ مَنْ بَقِيَ مِنْ أَصْحَابِ النَّبِيِّ
  • بِالْمَدِينَةِ،
  • وَمَا
  • مِنَ النَّاسِ
  • كَانَتْ فَاطِمَةُ عَلَيْهَا السَّلاَمُ تَغْسِلُ الدَّمَ عَنْ وَجْهِهِ، وَعَلِيٌّ
  • عَلَى
  • فَأُخِذَ
  • فَحُرِّقَ

Present in the selected hadith, absent here

  • ابْنُ أَبِي عُمَرَ، قال
  • سُئِلَ سَهْلُ بْنُ سَعْدٍ وَأَنَا أَسْمَعُ،
  • مَا
  • كَانَ عَلِيٌّ
  • فِي
  • وَفَاطِمَةُ تَغْسِلُ عَنْهُ الدَّمَ وَأُحْرِقَ لَهُ
  • قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ صَحِيحٌ
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Data provenance
Foundation line
948527
Foundation source
sunnah.com
Hadith group
sunni_grp_47dcd0d5061c
Identity layer
legacy_effective_identity
Chain links
0/3 corroborated
Chronology flags
0