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Sunan Ibn Majah 3664

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hasan
Parsed paths
1
Resolved narrators
1/4
With source evidence
1/4
Need attention
3

0 criticized · 3 unresolved

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Grades recorded on related transmissions
Daif · 1Sahih · 1

Evidence-backed research notes

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  1. Recorded grading

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  2. Chain resolution

    1/4 narrator identities are resolved. 0/3 direct links have comparator or accepted classical support; 3 links retain an unresolved endpoint.

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  3. Related routes

    0/3 related public chains share at least one resolved narrator; 0 direct transmission links repeat.

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  4. Matn wording

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  5. Istidlal workspace

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Exact evidence

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Narrators in the recorded chain · 1
Classical passages shown on this page · 2
Accepted hadith principles · 3

Transmission paths

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Recorded chain

0/3 links corroborated

حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ إِدْرِيسَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ سُلَيْمَانَ، عَنْ أَسِيدِ بْنِ عَلِيِّ بْنِ عُبَيْدٍ، مَوْلَى بَنِي سَاعِدَةَ عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ أَبِي أُسَيْدٍ، مَالِكِ بْنِ رَبِيعَةَ قَالَ بَيْنَمَا نَحْنُ عِنْدَ النَّبِيِّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ إِذْ جَاءَهُ رَجُلٌ مِنْ بَنِي سُلَيْمٍ فَقَالَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ أَبَقِيَ مِنْ بِرِّ أَبَوَىَّ شَىْءٌ أَبَرُّهُمَا بِهِ مِنْ بَعْدِ مَوْتِهِمَا قَالَ

  1. علي بن محمد
  2. عبد الله بن ادريس
  3. عبد الرحمن بن سليمان
  4. أسيد بن علي بن عبيد

Path 1: 1/4 identities resolved; 1 narrator dossiers contain source evidence; 0/3 edges corroborated; 3 unresolved edge endpoints; 0 generation-order conflicts.

Narrators requiring attention

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Scholarly positions

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Attributed assessments shown
3
Narrators with formal disagreement
0

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Narrator evidence

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علي بن محمدNo authority status loaded · 0 evidence itemsOpen

The chain identity is present, but no linked classical passage is loaded for it yet.

عبد الله بن ادريسNo authority status loaded · 0 evidence itemsOpen

The chain identity is present, but no linked classical passage is loaded for it yet.

عبد الرحمن بن سليمانNo authority status loaded · 0 evidence itemsOpen

The chain identity is present, but no linked classical passage is loaded for it yet.

أسيد بن علي بن عبيدAcceptable · 49 evidence itemsOpen
Full narrator profileSix-Book identity 569

Classical biographical passages

  • ### $ 631 بخ د ق البخاري في الأدب المفرد وأبي داود وابن ماجة أسيد بن علي بن ~~عبيد الساعدي الأنصاري مولى أبي أسيد وقيل من ولده والأول أكثر وهو أسيد بن ~~أبي أسيد وقال أبو نعيم بالضم روى عن أبيه عن أبي أسيد وقيل عن أبيه عن جده ~~عن أبي أسيد روى عنه عبد الرحمن بن سليمان بن الغسيل وموسى بن يعقوب الزمعي ~~قال بن ماكولا وغيره جعله البخاري وغيره رجلين وهما واحد اخرجوا له ms0256 حديث هل ~~أبر والدي بشيء الحديث وحده قلت وتبع البخاري بن حبان في الثقات في التفرقة ~~بين أسيد بن أبي أسيد وبين أسيد بن علي وأقر البخاري على التفرقة أبو زرعة ~~وأبو حاتم وانكرا على البخاري ذكره رواية موسى بن يعقوب عنه إنما روى عن بن ~~الغسيل عنه وقد أخرج الحديث المذكور بن حبان والحاكم في صحيحيهما ~~PageV01P302

    shamela-1293 · vol. 1, page 301, entry 631Read exact passage

  • أسيد بن علي بن عبيد عن أبيه وعنه عبد الرحمن بن الغسيل وموسى بن يعقوب د ق

    shamela-2171 · vol. 0, page 0, entry 432Read exact passage

Attributed assessments

  • * الأنصاري,مولى * *

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  • أسيد بن عَليّ بن عبيد مولى أبي أسيد السَّاعِدِيّ من أهل الْمَدِينَة يروي عَن أَبِيه عَن أبي أسيد روى عَنهُ مُوسَى بن يَعْقُوب الزمعِي وَعبد الرَّحْمَن بن سُلَيْمَان الغسيل

    Unknown assessorIbn Ḥibbān (d. 965 CE) - al-Thiqāt ابن حبان - الثقات

  • إدراج في كتاب الثقات لابن حبان: اسيد بن علي بن عبيد

    Ibn ḤibbānIbn Ḥibbān (d. 965 CE) - al-Thiqāt ابن حبان - الثقات

Structured facts

  • Attribute

    ### $ 631 بخ د ق البخاري في الأدب المفرد وأبي داود وابن ماجة أسيد بن علي بن ~~عبيد الساعدي الأنصاري مولى أبي أ

    vol. 1, page 301, entry 631 · Provisional · Medium confidence

  • Attribute

    ي أسيد وقيل من ولده والأول أكثر وهو أسيد بن ~~أبي أسيد وقال أبو نعيم بالضم

    vol. 1, page 301, entry 631 · Provisional · Medium confidence

  • Attribute

    أسيد بن علي بن عبيد الساعدي الأنصاري مولى أبي أسيد

    vol. 1, page 301, entry 631 · Provisional · High confidence

  • Attribute

    ### $ 631 بخ د ق البخاري في الأدب المفرد وأبي داود وابن ماجة أسيد بن علي بن ~~عبيد الساعدي الأنصاري مولى أبي أ

    vol. 1, page 301, entry 631 · Provisional · Medium confidence

  • Attribute

    أسيد بن علي بن عبيد الساعدي الأنصاري مولى أبي أسيد

    vol. 1, page 301, entry 631 · Provisional · High confidence

  • Attribute

    ي أسيد وقيل من ولده والأول أكثر وهو أسيد بن ~~أبي أسيد وقال أبو نعيم بالضم

    vol. 1, page 301, entry 631 · Provisional · Medium confidence

  • Identity

    أسيد بن علي بن عبيد

    vol. 0, page 0, entry 432 · Accepted · High confidence

  • Identity

    أسيد بن علي بن عبيد الساعدي الأنصاري مولى أبي أسيد

    vol. 1, page 301, entry 631 · Provisional · Medium confidence

  • Identity

    أسيد بن علي بن عبيد الساعدي الأنصاري مولى أبي أسيد

    vol. 1, page 301, entry 631 · Accepted · High confidence

  • Relation Raw

    أسيد بن علي بن عبيد عن أبيه وعنه عبد الرحمن بن الغسيل وموسى بن يعقوب د ق

    vol. 0, page 0, entry 432 · Provisional · Low confidence

Showing 10 of 41 items here. Open the full narrator profile for the complete dossier.

Teacher and student evidence

  • Reports From: موسى بن يعقوب الزمعي

    1 source family witness · Accepted

  • Reports From: موسى بن يعقوب الزمعي

    1 source family witness · Accepted

  • Reports From: عبد الرحمن بن الغسيل

    1 source family witness · Accepted

Route corroboration

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Shared transmission links

0 repeated links

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Sunan Abi Dawud · 1516

0 shared narrators

sahih

No shared resolved narrator identity is recorded in the public chains.

Sunan Abi Dawud · 5142

0 shared narrators

da’if

No shared resolved narrator identity is recorded in the public chains.

Matn wording variation

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Present in the related wording at this alignment pointOverlap is an ordered word comparison, not a grade.
Sunan Abi Dawud · 514268% ordered word overlap · 3 addition passages · 2 omission passagesda’if

Related wording

نَعَمِ الصَّلاَةُ عَلَيْهِمَا وَالاِسْتِغْفَارُ لَهُمَا وَإِنْفَاذُ عَهْدِهِمَا مِنْ بَعْدِهِمَا وَصِلَةُ الرَّحِمِ الَّتِي لاَ تُوصَلُ إِلاَّ بِهِمَا وَإِكْرَامُ صَدِيقِهِمَا

Only in this related alignment

  • وَإِنْفَاذُ عَهْدِهِمَا
  • بَعْدِهِمَا
  • وَإِكْرَامُ صَدِيقِهِمَا

Present in the selected hadith, absent here

  • وَإِيفَاءٌ بِعُهُودِهِمَا
  • بَعْدِ مَوْتِهِمَا وَإِكْرَامُ صَدِيقِهِمَا
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Riyad as-Salihin · 34368% ordered word overlap · 3 addition passages · 2 omission passages

Related wording

نعم، الصلاة عليهما، والاستغفار لهما، وإنفاذ عهدهما من بعدهما، وصلة الرحم التي لا توصل إلا بهما، وإكرام صديقهما‏

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  • وإنفاذ عهدهما
  • بعدهما،
  • وإكرام صديقهما‏

Present in the selected hadith, absent here

  • وَإِيفَاءٌ بِعُهُودِهِمَا
  • بَعْدِ مَوْتِهِمَا وَإِكْرَامُ صَدِيقِهِمَا
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Sunan Abi Dawud · 15160% ordered word overlap · 1 addition passage · 1 omission passagesahih

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رَبِّ اغْفِرْ لِي وَتُبْ عَلَىَّ إِنَّكَ أَنْتَ التَّوَّابُ الرَّحِيمُ

Only in this related alignment

  • رَبِّ اغْفِرْ لِي وَتُبْ عَلَىَّ إِنَّكَ أَنْتَ التَّوَّابُ الرَّحِيمُ

Present in the selected hadith, absent here

  • نَعَمْ الصَّلاَةُ عَلَيْهِمَا وَالاِسْتِغْفَارُ لَهُمَا وَإِيفَاءٌ بِعُهُودِهِمَا مِنْ بَعْدِ مَوْتِهِمَا وَإِكْرَامُ صَدِيقِهِمَا وَصِلَةُ الرَّحِمِ الَّتِي لاَ تُوصَلُ إِلاَّ بِهِمَا
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Data provenance
Foundation line
964542
Foundation source
sunnah.com
Hadith group
sunni_grp_b4845f8b162b
Identity layer
legacy_effective_identity
Chain links
0/3 corroborated
Chronology flags
0